![]() I think you find what works for you - seek some advice here, but realize advice is just advice. The EV may be higher for a shoe game, but honestly I would probably have a higher EV by staying home and working at my main business, than traveling to play blackjack. ![]() I would rather play in games where I can sit down and play for a couple of hours instead of scouting shoe games. I try to maximize my enjoyment first and EV second. Of course, “your mileage may vary.” I play for fun and have been able to average well into five figures per year and treat this as primarily a hobby. My record is four backoffs from one locals’ casino, known for its sweatiness, over a seven-year period. I was backed off three times in 18 months from one casino, but I have not been backed off there in two years since. There are a lot of different double-deck games to play. For me, the fun of playing is nearly as important as my winnings. I try to play/drink like a tourist with wild bets, rainbow bets, and some tipping (not much). I play for the money, but also have fun and don't sweat the backoffs. I never get backed off in less than thirty minutes. I have done this approach for years, and keep playing. I usually get one or two backoffs per trip, but I get in a lot of hours. My max bet is usually less than $1000 but not much less (say $950). If I am playing $25 games, I usually play $50-800. I will not play a double-deck game without at least a 1-10 spread. I play every game in town and mostly $50 and $100 minimum double-deck games, though I will also hit the locals’ casinos and downtown stores. I go to Las Vegas usually twice per year for 4-5 days. Hodger: I play my own style, though many will criticize it. ![]() If the backoff is going to come anyway, particularly at the sweatshops, I'd like to hear opinions about using a big spread, say 25-500 or 1000, LV Bear style, assuming your bankroll can handle it. Many of us make only occasional trips to Las Vegas, quarterly or less. I also own a hardbound copy of his 1966 autobiography, "The Odds Against Me." It's a good read.Question: To the occasional Las Vegas visiting card counter - Is there a reason for polite bet spreads or should I just bomb away? There have been a number of discussions on Green Chip about Las Vegas backoffs despite "polite" spreads. But he never made a profit on the game mainly due to water damage in the warehouse which eliminated the entire stock in one day. Even Orson Welles was reported to have been playing Teeko. He was so proud of the game that he named his son John Teeko Scarne. I'm a proud owner a copy of Teeko, which I understand is hard to find. And he was especially proud of one called Teeko, which he invented in 1945 (version withdrawn), re-invented in 1952 and modified in the 1960s. In fact, he served as a technical advisor in the 1973 motion picture The Sting, and doubled for actor Paul Newman's hands during scenes that involved card manipulations and deck switching.īut he was happiest when inventing (and marketing, through his company John Scarne Games, Inc.) new games, which he did quite a bit. Scarne was often proclaimed by experts, magicians and editors of the time as the greatest card manipulator of all time. ![]()
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